Jordan Peterson – IQ and The Job Market


So, here you go. This is from the Wunderlich people They’re a commercial company that makes general cognitive ability tests. And it’s often used by corporations (whispering) Even though it’s actually illegal. It’s actually illegal to use IQ tests. But the Wunderlich doesn’t… promote themselves as testing IQ I think they – I think it’s general cognitive ability which is the same thing but whatever. The SATs, the GREs, the LSATs, all of those, they are IQ tests so.. Now they’re more crystalized than fluid; we’ll get to that in a minute Crystalized knowledge is what you accrue across time So you could say that fluid intelligence is what programs your brain, It fills it with facts, let’s say, it fills it with knowledge But you can get an estimate of your intelligence then By sampling your domain of factual knowledge and the reason for that is, well obviously, The better the programmer, the better the content And so what that also means is that you can If your prefrontal cortex was damaged later in life your fluid IQ could plummet but your crystallized IQ remains more or less intact So even though they’re not different, One produces the other, and then once the producer… has produced, then the producer could disappear and you’ve still got the encoded knowledge so, then at least that’s how it looks to me Okay so how smart do you have to be to be different things in life? Well… If you have an IQ of 116 to 130, which is 85th percentile and above, so It’s one person in 8 up to one person in… (to himself) 130 I believe is 85, 90? 95? Is it 95? I think it’s 95. One person in 8 to one person in 20. Then you can be a attorney, a research an analyst, an editor, an advertising manager, a chemist, an engineer, an executive manager, et. cetera that’s the… now That’s not the high-end for IQ, by the way You know, it can go up Well it can go up indefinitely, Although there’s fewer and fewer people as it goes up. So, if you want to be the best at what you’re doing, bar none, Then having an IQ of above 145 is a necessity And maybe you’re pushing 160 in some situations and maybe that’s making you one person in 10,000 or even in 100,000 And then also, To really be good at it you probably have to be reasonably stress tolerant and also somewhat conscientious So people, and you think well Why is it that smart people are at the top of dominance hierarchies? And the answer to that, in part, is because they get there first. Right? And everything’s a race, roughly speaking And the faster you are, the more likely you are to be at the forefront of the pack Intelligence in large part is speed That’s not all it is, So if you’re moving towards something difficult rapidly, the faster people are going to get there first So IQ of 115, 110 to 115 So that’s 73rd to 85th percentile Copywriter, Accountant, Manager, Sales Manager, Sales, Analyst, General Manager, Purchasing Agent, Registered Nurse, Sales Account Executive If you look at universities, the smartest people are -they’re above this- Who are the smartest people at university? What do you think? Mathemeticians. Physicists and Mathemeticians, right. I could tell you who’s on the other end but I won’t! (laughter) Yea I’d like to though! (laughter continues) Anyways, okay. Going down the – now… 103 to 108 is slightly above average, right? 60th to 70th percentile Store Manager, Bookkeeper, Credit Clerk, Lab Tester, General Sales, Telephone Sales, Accounting Clerk, Computer Operator, Customer Service Rep, Technician, Clerk, Typist So you see at this level People have some technical skill and some ability to deal with complex things Okay, that’s dead average 100 is average Dispatcher in a General Office, Police Patrol Officer, Receptionist, Cashier, General Clerical Inside Sales Clerk, Meter Reader, Printer, Teller, Data Entry, Electrical Helper. (silence) 95th to 98 Machinist, Food Department Manager, Quality Control Checker, Security Guard, Unskilled Labour, Maintenance, Arc Welder, Die Setter, Mechanic. Good IQ range for relatively qualified tradespeople 87 to 93 Messenger, Factory Production Worker, Assembler, Food Service Worker, Nurse’s Aide, Warehouseman, Custodian/Janitor Material Handler, Packer. Now what you’re seeing – what you’re starting to see is that as you move down the hierarchy The jobs get simpler They are more likely to be assigned by other people, or they’re repetitive because what IQ predicts to some degree is how rapidly you could learn something but once you’ve learned it, it doesn’t predict how – necessarily how well you do at it. and so the more repetitive jobs tend – people with lower IQs are more suited to more repetitive jobs under 87, Is there something? Well! No! Right. That’s a big problem. And it’s something our society has not addressed at all! Jobs for people with IQs of less than 85 are very, very rare. So what the hell are those people supposed to do? It’s like, it’s one – it’s fifteen percent of the population! What are they supposed to do? Well, we better figure it out. Because one of the things that’s happening too is that as the as the high-IQ tech Geeks get a hold of the world The demand for cognitive power is increasing, not decreasing, right? You want to be a teller? Well you know, those checkout machines they’re not so simple! You want to work at McDonald’s? You think that’s a simple job? You don’t see robots working at McDonald’s! And the reason for that is that what McDonald’s workers do is too complex for robots to do! So Well, so this is a discussion that no one wants to have. But that’s okay. It’s still a problem. And it has to be dealt with. So the US Government – I think I told you this at one point already – It’s illegal to induct anyone into the US army if they have an IQ of less than 83, right? It’s about 10% of the population Because the US Army, they’ve been doing IQ testing since IQ testing began Because they want everybody they could possibly get into the army Because at peace time they use it as a way of moving people up the socioeconomic ladder… And in war time, well obviously You need as many soldiers as you can get your hands on And so you’re not going to be any pickier than you have to be. So when the US Army says it’s illegal to induct anybody into the armed forces if they have an IQ of less than 83, then you know that they’ve done it for absolute necessity. Right? And when people have made a finding that contradicts what they want to hear, and they’re doing it out of absolute necessity, you can be reasonably true that it’s one of those facts that just won’t bloody-well go away And so you might think that well if there’s nothing for someone with an IQ of less than 83 to do in the army, what makes you think that there’s something they can do in the general population? And then the issue is – because you know the conservatives, they’ll say “well, they should just work harder” it’s like, sorry that ain’t going to fly! And the liberals will say “well, there’s no difference between people anyhow!… …And you can just train people to do everything” and that’s wrong! So they’re both wrong! And they’re seriously wrong! And the fact that neither side of the political perspective will take a good cold hard look at this problem Means that we’re going to increasingly have a structural problem in our societies because we’re complexifying everything so rapidly that you can’t find employment! Unless – increasingly unless you’re intelligent You guys are really going to face this you know, Lawyers are disappearing like mad and the reason for that is – you can look it up online – increasingly you can do things yourself if you’re smart and so the working class people have been wiped out pretty nicely you know, in the last 30 years by automation and various other things It’s the low end of the white collar class that’s coming up next so I’m not saying that lawyers are in the low end, but low-end lawyers are in the low-end of the white-collar class So there are still going to be plenty of positions for people who are creative and fast on their feet and super smart In fact those people are going to have all the money and that’s already happening to a great degree you know, because if you’re smart and you can use a computer, you’re so smart it’s just absolutely unbelievable and if you can’t use a computer, and lots of people, and I don’t mean you know, you can open word, that isn’t what I mean I mean – maybe I mean you can program and if you can’t program, well, you’re right at the next end so if you haven’t got that with you, you’re… you’re going to be left behind (student) what’s going to happen to them, when that happens? When you have, you know – (Peterson) oh well a lot of them will take Demerol That’s what’s happening in the United States Yea, it’s an opiate. Yea, so there’s a massive drug problem emerging and – (student) *inaudible* … under 83, or whatever it is, is about 15% of the population (Peterson) yea, yea, no I’m telling you, that is what’s happening, they’re – (student) what you’re talking about seems like that percent of the population is going to increase (Peterson) Yes. Drugs! Yea, drugs of abuse. (student) *inaudible* …15% of the population falling out of society well that’s what is happening to a large degree is people drop out of the employment race they get very depressed, they develop chronic pain problems especially if they’re men, because chronic pain and depression are very much the same thing, and then they subsist on opiates, which are subsidised by Medicaid in the US. I’m not kidding about this, this is exactly what’s happening! What else is going to happen to people for whom there is nothing to do? They have a terrible time, especially if they’re conscientious. (student) how large will that stratum of people grow? (Peterson) That’s a good question! You know, the AI guys are pushing hard on this Hey! What’s the biggest employment category? Driver Think about it. What’s Tesla doing? What are all the AI guys working on as fast as they possibly can? Driverless Cars! No problem Except that’s the biggest employment category for men. So what are those guys going to do? Yea, they’re going to sit at home and, you know, be miserable with their wives and take opiates because they have chronic pain problems right Nasty and you might think well – could they think up something else to do? Well if you have an IQ of 83 or less you’re not going to be doing a lot of thinking about something else to do you know, that isn’t how it works because you’re more of a – you’re an ‘act’ person, not a ‘thinking’ person. roughly speaking you know, and so if you have a task at hand, and especially if you’re conscientious, you can diligently go about it but you know, I’ve tried to train people with IQs of 80 and less to do… what I would consider tasks that that one of you could learn to do in 10 minutes and never make a mistake again and it’s like tens of hours with bare-minimum mastery of the task Yea it’s an ugly situation, no doubt about it.

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100 thoughts on “Jordan Peterson – IQ and The Job Market

  1. But but but …. the Left-wing says that everyone is Equal. And that anyone can do anything if the "set their mind to it". LOL

  2. I was in the Navy in the 1980s and I was SHOCKED how many Black people couldn't pass the SIMPLEST tasks. But they sure were successful THUGS.

  3. I was tested at 150 in 3rd grade, then later 132 in high school and now I've got a poverty job as a driver. Of course, that's because I got sick and tired of the stress of practicing law after 19 years.

  4. He’s confusing 5% being OUTSIDE of two standard deviations from the mean with 5% being ABOVE 2 standard deviations from the mean. So a 130 is 97.5 percentile, not 95. This doesn’t seem like much but it’s the difference between 1/40 and 1/20.

  5. SO THE SAD TRUTH SEEMS TO BE….NO ONE IS BORN EQUAL TO ANOTHER WHO THINKS HE WAS BORN EQUAL…A CLEAR AN UNDERSTANDABLE PROBLEM/ SOLUTION IS BECOME A LIB/DEM…..AN FORCE SOCIALISM ON THE REST OF US…..

  6. Jordan Peterson frustrates me. "Roughly speaking" is a redundancy, among others, that he uses to obscure ill-informed arguments. He is not a physicist, nor an executive; he's an agent of average. He thrives on the insecurity of dudes who can't get laid. Stop listening to this man, a man who has no expertise whatsoever, and go live your life. Stop listening to the failed academic who decided to pursue a career in reactionary political commentary because he couldn't find an audience anywhere else. He's like a mixture of Rush Limbaugh and Dr. Doofenshmirtz.

  7. What exactly is Rotogenflux Methods? How does this thing really work? I see lots of people keep on speaking about this iq boost secrets.

  8. he fails to mention that the IQ test has been historically racist. like with the question, "What do you do if you find a wallet? a. turn it in or b. leave it there" depends if you are white or not. And it's gotten better but to this day it's still made by people with knowledge testing other on knowledge, and if your knowledge differs you assume to be less intelligence

  9. It's a little bit concerning how the motion of instruction here is didactic without much room for discussion… I believe Peterson has some misconceptions about AI, programming, and its potential… which might probably be due to universities and companies marketing their breakthroughs to seem as all-encompassing and amazing as possible. Additionally, I feel like a lot of the content (at least in this video) are basically many of his personal theories, but while explaining to his audience he does not quite provide any substantial evidential backbone…without which, it seems to me like he is merely popularising his views to his audience than providing knowledge 🙁

  10. how do you determine the match between job and IQ though, is it just from the perceived cognitive input that a job requires or is it derived from the IQs of those who occupy such roles? because some of the low IQ professions require a large amount of creative capacity and rationalization

  11. I have seen highly motivated people out perform much smarter people so many times. But his point of an 85 IQ has merit because of diminishing returns.

  12. It's tough to feel comfortable in an age of decline, but at least it's 2019 and there's still a place at an elite university for a man like Jordan Peterson—one with extremely uncommon gifts of mind and a great deal of heart, meaning compassion and courage. (Not that I'm a disciple.)

  13. Iq is aptitude. Smart is having knowledge. Wisdom is knowing when to use said knowledge.

    But then again, you already knew that, didn’t you?

  14. IQ tests are rather meaningless when it comes to 1. Judging an individual's actual degree of intelligence, 2. Determining what kind of job they will have and how well or poorly they will perform at that job, and 3. Attempting to determine how successful that individual will be in any area of life.

    As I initially stated, IQ tests are, rather ironically, poor indicators of individual intelligence, and this is particularly true of ACT/SAT exams which can be studied for before hand, and are thus testing knowledge, not intelligence. Knowledge is something that can be acquired, gathered, learned, etc. through study and reading and experience and so on. Intelligence is innate and consists of a variety of variables, a number of which cannot be tested for, and aren't tested for, in any standardized exam, ESPECIALLY in the ACTs/SATs. This includes things such as common sense, empathy, understanding of others, etc.

    And lastly, as I previously alluded to, IQ tests, and "intelligence" itself, is an awful indicator for success and/or what sort of job an individual will pursue, enjoy, and/or excel at–those things have more to do with personality type, personal/life experience, and individual interests and passions. Moreover, I can't tell you the number of highly intelligent people who are in their early to mid 30s but are still completely lost in life, both in career and in love–I'm talking individuals who score in the superior-to-extremely superior range on IQ tests (ie, 125-140 for superior and 140-and above for extremely superior depending on the test/scale). These are people with a wide range of interest and excel and several different things, but either lack a college degree or work experience or some other prerequisite required to obtain a job in that field. Or, while they're immensely intelligent, several of these people suffer from what society/psychology define as mental/personality disorders including but not limited to generalized anxiety disorder, major depressive disorder, panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD, manic depression/bi-polar disorder, and so on. And all of these things prevent them from attaining jobs. And as I said, these are all the smartest, most intelligent people I know.

    Meanwhile, the less intelligent people, or people of average intelligence to below average intellect seem to have a much easier time getting jobs, holding jobs, and living life in general. And it's my theory as both a sociology/psychology double major, but more importantly, as a human being, that those of average or even below average intelligence aren't so "up on their heads" and/or questioning things, questioning their bosses, and worst of all, questioning the meaning of their often times menial jobs and the purpose of their life. These types of internal/intrinsic existential queries seem to be limited to people like myself–people with superior IQs, and we all seem to suffer from it.

    Finally, I just want to say that I've taken 2 IQ exams–the first I scored 135, the second 142. They initially wouldn't tell me my actual score but would only divulge that I scored in either the superior or extremely superior range which I thought were just bullshit categories at the time (and this occurred both times for whatever reason). However, I would eventually get them to divulge the scores for me. And perhaps the reason they wouldn't tell me was because, during the first exam, I was in a mental hospital after a failed suicide attempt nearly 10 years ago and, among all my other examinations, they wanted to know my IQ for whatever reason. And my second IQ test was also related to my mental health treatment.

    Anyhow, I've already said enough, probably more than enough, but it's been my experience that IQ and even intelligence in and of itself is a terrible predictor of happiness, likelihood of success–whether at work, in love, or in life in general–and it is a terrible predictor of what type of job someone might work. Some of the smartest people I've met I've encountered while working labor intensive jobs and other jobs which most people deem unimportant or menial (but the highly intelligent people working them could either never find employment in something which may have better suited their intelligence, or they were limited be mental illness/disorders, or more commonly, a bullshit criminal record consisting of non-violent drug crimes). And on the contrary, some of the biggest fools and hearts the size of peas and brains to match have worked in positions of power–I'm talking business managers, educators/professors, and even doctors (yes, there's more to intelligence–and being and doctor–than being able to retain information you read in a medical text book).

    Anyways, I'm done. I'm sure I'll get eaten alive for my take on intelligence, but it's simply my opinion that I've based on nearly 35 years of life experience while being someone who is considered to have a "high IQ," and my experience with countless friends, family, and acqaintences who all have above-average and superior IQs but also have extreme difficulty fitting into society and maintaining employment and so on and so forth.

  15. At 115 IQ you can be a software developer but not a trainee, you can be a general manager but not an advertising manager… What scale is this?!
    And there are "robots" in McDonalds, not in a physical way, but there are stands where you can make your order and pay for it, no need to talk with cashier.

  16. You are mistaken about the Opiate problem. Nerve root damage creates intractable pain that never goes away. It happens with cancer or in accidents, or other extreme illnesses. Opiates are the only drug that passes the blood brain barrier to deal with the pain center in the brain when nerve roots are involved, otherwise, the person with the nerve root damage suffers, horribly to death. This is what is happening now, to thousands and thousands of people. Many have died this past year and a half without opioids, many don't even have Dr.s anymore because Dr.s are afraid of having patients who actually need opiates to stay alive. This last year, those who've died – their death certificates say… heart attack, stroke, organ failure, suicide, but really, they suffered to death, their Government Murdered them. None of us are addicts or psychologically depressed. We're the people who never wanted to have to take these drugs in the first place, we're the ones who never abused or gave away the drugs, we barely got enough to see us through each day. Suffering to death is a horrible way to die. It could be you next.

  17. I'm a technician at a medical device manifacturer, the technicians are smarter then most people in the office. They try to get rid of our jobs constantly, but problems happen that necessitate our existance on a regular basis

  18. Standardized academic tests are not IQ tests. They are knowledge tests. IQ tests test your brains processing power, logic, reasoning and creativity. Knowledge tests test your brains memory.

  19. People with low IQ can learn to do what they've always done…live off the land. But governments and banks have horded all the land from the people so they can't make a good living in a high tech society.

  20. Corporations don't want "intelligence".

    They want obedience.

    They want you to do whatever they tell you to do without question.

    The smarter you are the less likely you are to want to involve yourself in the stupidity of civilization.

    Which by the way is not civilized in any way.

    Civilization is insanity to the core.

  21. What is the most reliable IQ test? I did one back in high school, scored 135. As I am getting older I feel I am getting dumber (I used to code back then, I just wanna know how rusty my brain has got)

  22. In my country Greece all kids are educated in the same school until high school. Those who pass in the university are taught mathematics, physics ect along with other students who just cant understand them, at least in the last 3 years of school. All those who doesnt care about education and want an easy and simple job need to learn mathematics they will probably never use and all those who pass in the university just have missing knowledge about very important things. Education is free in my country and too much money get spent for no reason to "educate" ppl who throw their books (free of charge books) out of the windows and forcing all teachers to try help them keep up with the rest of the class. And if you try to mention an idea about spliting students in different schools with different subjects all the liberals get triggered. I want to add to this the fact that pashing in the university only depends on your performance on some final exams at 4-5 subjects. If you are smard but unlucky you just lose 1 year of your life for nothing to try next year, if you are not capable but lucky (or cheating) you pass in the uni and just stay in there for infinity unable to keep up.

  23. studies have shown that about 2% of the human population believe or are not sure wether the earth is flat. This is what 80iq is, dont worry all you sphere earthers xD

  24. I must admit something for truely loving the queen of truth: Mathematicians often aren't the smartest in the university, as much I'd like to believe this. Real life is often far more complex than mathematical modells for example.

    Keen and super fast fighters, who adapt to their opponents and their movements in no time, who invent new fighting techniques on the spot, are the REALLY smart people but also those guys who invent new tools to build houses or invent new tools for plumbers to make their life better. Or star architects. This takes phenomenal imagination skills. It takes more spacial imagination to do those things, than it takes phantasy to solve most mathematical problems.

    For physics and math one must be willing to have high dedication and patience, loving the problems at hand, but we aren't the smartest.

    The machine inventers like Elon Musk, who imagine highly complex objects in their mind, who can draw like Leonardo Da Vinci technically, are the true kings of intelligence.

    You guys deserve the truth.

    P.S. Btw, IQ is that what the test producer thinks what IQ is and no test can reliably and validly meassure a genius, because a genius would tanscend most IQ test authors in their problem solving originality and an IQ-test whose producer isn't nearly as that cannot utilise the strenghts of such a phenomenal person meassurably in more than maximum the processing speed quality.

  25. I think they might want to re-examine their job-IQ chart. Keep in mind that by def'n, an IQ of 100 is average for white Europeans. If memory serves, an IQ of 115 is the average IQ of a graduate student. If one goes by the Peterson's slides, one needs an IQ in the 85th percentile to be a teacher, RN or purchasing agent. I find this notion to be highly dubious. None of these jobs require above average intelligence.

  26. Unfortunately, individuals with very low IQ's won't fully comprehend most of this video, and are able to apply it to their own lives to improve their situations.

  27. A question for people with an higher IQ.

    Lately I'm experiencing problems regarding the capabilitys of others to think or to follow my statements and I'm not sure if the problem is that I'm slightly "more capable" than they are or something else. My IQ is not like "that high" it's around 140.
    In general it's like I have zero problem following or talking about complex topics even in fields I have no or close to non experience with and it doesn't matter if I'm slightly sick, tired or whatever. But I got the feeling like for others thinking can be hard from the get go. And I know some equaly smart people with 120IQ who are barely capable to follow me sometimes and get exhausted realy fast when talking to me. Or a friend of mine with 125-130 who last time we saw after about an hour said it get's exhausting.
    For me personally I barely know occasions in which I had problems to think or found it exhausting. Of course I think a lot but I wonder if other's don't?

    Now I would love to know if someone had similar problems with talking to people.

  28. I did an armed robbery in Holland when I was 17. They let me do an IQ test so they could give me an accordingly threathment . I got 122 IQ and 129 EQ and my fellow convict 87 and 104. He got out in 3 months and had special threathment like in an hospital but slept at home and I was sentenced 2 years because It had to be me to come up with the plan and abuse his dumbness for my better. Actually he came up with it and I just followed but thats the turnside on being “smart” I guess..

  29. "I won't tell you who is at the other end"

    We all know it: social "scientists" 😛

    That's why so many of them deny the significance of IQ.

  30. Why an obsession over intelligence quotient if you can't do much about it anyway? Higher IQ is a general predictor of better success overall in career and other domains, but it is not a guarantee of a good or decently lived life. There are people who are highly intelligent that do end up fucking up their whole lives with substance abuse, end up unemployed, have problems finding partners, have poor social relationships, or end up depressed and suicidal. And there are many people with average or less than average intelligence that end up living amazing, wholesome lives. IQ is just one number. Just one number. Not an excuse for some zealous people to discriminate or promote stupid or dangerous ideas.

  31. THEY CALL THEMSELVES EXPERTS ON EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN; SO TELL ME HOW MUCH "QI" DOES ONE HAVE TO "LACK"
    TO MURDER INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE, OR GROUPS OF PEOPLE PERIOD FOR THAT MATTER ???? BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS SEEN WITH THEIR OWN EYES, HOW "THEM AND THEIR RACE-SOLDIER WHITE COPS" HAVE INTENTIONALLY MURDERED UNARMED, INNOCENT BLACKS "RIGHT ON FILM", AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW "HOW LOW DOES YOUR IQ HAVE TO BE";
    PRETTY LOW I'D GUESS, WOULD'NT YOU SAY, EVEN HEATHEN-LIKE. LET THAT MARINATE IN YOUR BRAIN FOR A FEW MINUTES,
    "SO-CALLED "STABLE WHITE GENIUSES." !!!!

  32. Ok, but I want to bring some propositions forward. IQ might be improved by up to 15% with practice. Also, what you can't improve in IQ, you can improve in knowledge. So, maybe those people with an IQ of 80, if they studied and learned some more knowledge along the way, they could solve what he was trying to teach them faster, not as fast as those with high IQ, but faster. Also, getting a good education since your a baby might improve the chances of success a lot. I also doubt IQ is only genetics, but I have to read and research more on the subject. Don't get me wrong, I like Peterson and listen to him and read his book also..but I disagree with him on this. I have to read more on the subject though.

  33. ive got an IQ of 142 and the best Britain can come up with is to leave me with brain damage, physical disabilities, and a job market that pays who you know not what you know. in short an IQ wont help.

  34. First ask the question how IQ and sociopathic behaviour is linked and you will find a greater insight into how the world is so fucked up, IQ can determine ability to function but does it deal with consequence of action of the individual. Most people have normal IQs most people are normal.. Intelligence is not linked with social responsibility only with results.

  35. Not sure I agree. First, many jobs, probably most jobs, don't require an advanced IQ. Second, emotional IQ matters; This roughly translates as social skills.

  36. Damn it Jordan tell us who is at the lowest end of the student spectrum? Gender Studies students??

  37. Jordan Peterson, who are you to decide what kind of people can do what kind of jobs?, you are just a simple man like the rest of us, you just say some bullshit and think people will believe that

  38. sorry Jordan, but robots are already in Maccas… at least for ordering.
    And I could see myself making robots to do the production as well.
    Would that be an *improvement*?
    Probably from Copr HQ's POV… but the customers will ultimately decide.
    Perhaps UberEats will obviate drive-thru and fast foods Bricks-and-Mortar?

  39. He's probably wrong about the 10 % of people that can't do any job. The current (10/2019 Eurostat) unemployment rate in the US is 3.7 % and in some EU countries, such as the Czech republic, Germany, Poland, Hungary, it's even lower. Assuming that the statistics about 10 % of people having IQ <83 is also correct, it must be his reasoning that is flawed. Perhaps the army isn't the least picky organization, and the fact that you can't serve in the army doesn't actually mean you can't do any job.

  40. This is silly, intelligence has nothing to do with how well you do with repetitive tasks, that's an entirely distinct matter.

  41. Total bullshit. Jobs are first and foremost a political issue, not a matter of intelligence. You'd think smart people would never have trouble finding work based on this, but it's first and foremost a matter of social connection.

  42. What Peterson didn't mention in terms of what are these people (IQ<83) going to do is "send them to prison". Have a look at incarceration rates in the USA.
    Of course this was pointed out by Herrnstein and Murray in The Bell Curve, but the debate was derailed by that one chapter speculating about race and IQ.
    The majority of low IQ people in the US are white so this is not specifically a racial problem.

  43. AI taking all jobs is scary. Companies will be nothing but executives and robots. Of course the execs will be replaced too eventually.

  44. Waow! To put so much into an "IQ test" is so stupid! HAHAHA, so that value high IQ are retards! HAHAHA! On top of that studies have shown that your intelligence has little to do with where you are in n life! Suprisingley from what EVERYONE thinks!
    As if "high IQ" = all over intelligence!

  45. I rarely agree with Peterson so much but what he says is true. If people can get a job that earns then a LIVABLE income and from that job; self and societal respect, they are far less likely to start taking some kind of drug to find escape. If people are happy they need no escape.

    But not everyone will get addicted to opiates as not everyone gets addicted to alcohol-a drug.
    The U.S. distribution of wealth is ripping this country apart. The top 1% own 45% of this country's wealth.
    Teddy Roosevelt was a REPUBLICAN and broke up the steel, oil, bank and railroad monopolies.
    I cannot imagine any politician arguing for antitrust action against GOOGLE/AMAZON/FB etc. And yet just those 3 companies control a substantial amount of access to and content on the internet.

  46. IQ is pretty much just a militaristic version of intelligence…its not meant to be friendly to us so…doesnt that say something about society…

  47. I agree to what he says about low IQ people to a certain extent. If they can't fill a traditional job role then they could pick up trash on the side of the freeway or any other job that a 5 year old could perform to earn the welfare benefits that they are most likely receiving.

  48. Jordan, there is this energy source called , the sun, you might want to stand outside and catch some rays every once and awhile.

  49. Utter horseshit…. IQ tests are culturally skewed and have nothing to do with creativity…. this guy is a ridiculous fraud

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