Angelina Darrisaw – International Career Coach


– Hello, GBS family, and welcome to the Great
Black Speakers Spotlight. My name is Jessica A. Walker. I am your community
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of our speaker’s voice, and we want to create a
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the value of our speakers. Great Black Speakers
believes that every speaker has a story to tell
and deserves a platform to share their story with the world. Today’s speaker is Angelina Darrisaw. Angelina Darrisaw is an
international business coach and digital media strategist
and brand ambassador. She is the founder and
CEO of the C-Suite Coach, a career coaching platform
that provides accessible professional development resources to diverse millennial professionals. She collaborates with employers
to create business solutions that empower and educate teens and facilitates career workshops and experiences for working
professional students. Angelina holds an MMA from
Wake Forest University and a Certificate of Coaching
from the New York University. And as a My Black is Beautiful
and Pantene brand ambassador, Angelina was featured
in national ads and in publications such as Oprah,
Ebony, and Essence magazine. Her profiles have been shown and showcased by the London Post and BET.com, and she has hosted self
esteem workshops to inspire women and girls and young
people across the country. Now, today within our
interview, Angelina and I talk a bit about blacks
and diversity, black, blacks and diversity, blacks in tech. We also talk a lot about coaching
and why it’s so important to understand your
individual level of success. So go ahead, and I hope
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minds one speech at a time. See you inside of the interview. Hello everyone, and thank
you so much for joining us on the Great Black Speakers Spotlight! Today, we have a wonderful,
wonderful, amazing speaker here, and she’s going
to tell us a little bit about what she’s doing in technology,
her speaking abilities, and also, some of the things
that she’s looking to move into with the new year of 2017. So, let’s go ahead and welcome Angelina Darrisaw. How are you? – Good, thank you, great to
be here, glad to join GBS. – Yes! We are just, we are in awe
and amazed that you are just on our platform, and we are
looking forward to all of the greatness you’re going
to bring to our platform, as well as our blog, as well
as your speaking abilities, so tell us a little bit about
how you got started speaking. Let’s start there, and we’ll
kind of go on to a bit of what it is that you do. – In terms of how I got
started speaking, I would say it’s something that
I’ve always cultivated, and never shied away from an opportunity to step up and be in the spotlight, so starting with some panels, all the way back from
when I was in college to in my early career,
taking on opportunities to speak to interns, to
speak to other employees, and be an ambassador for my company really gave me that
experience to be out there and in the forefront, and
I have to kick it back if we’re going to go even
further beyond there, my mom made me be in the
hospitality group at church, so I used to… Stand up and welcome the
visitors when they came, and always was working on my
notes to make sure I had the, the good verse and the good
welcome for the visitors, and that even gave me an
opportunity to not be shy and be out there and share
a message and also make sure that I was working on
my craft as a speaker. – I love that, I love that. And that’s so funny you
brought that up, because, I just, I was thinking the
other day, where I’d had someone come to me and ask
me to speak at an event, and I was thinking back to
like, when did I get started? And it’s similar, it’s funny. My mom gave me the greeting cards. Every Christmas, I was the
one that went up and read the greeting cards that other
churches sent to the church. – Aw, see? There’s no opportunity too
small to get your start! – Exactly. Right? And that’s for all of us
that have children as well, you know, we should
definitely be providing those opportunities to our children to get up there and…
– Sure. – You know, instill
that confidence in them. So that’s great, that’s wonderful. Also, thank your mom for that. (both laugh) All right, so, why did you
choose your current profession, and then tell us a little bit
about your profession as well. I’ll let you go ahead and
introduce what you do. – Okay, awesome. So C-Suite Coach is a coaching
platform, and our goal is to help companies engage and retain
diverse millennial talent. How did I get started in this? Well, my background is
in corporate strategy and digital business
development, so a bit different than professional
development and training. I was doing really innovative
things, exciting things, working with technology
companies, small startups, all the way to some of the
big ones, like Snapchat and Twitter and Tumblr,
and helping them figure out how to partner with the
brands that I was working in, and even as I was doing
all of this innovative technology stuff, I found that
my office door was swinging open with not necessarily
people asking me about Snapchat and Twitter or new media, but with young women, young
people of color, asking me, how was I navigating in my career? How is it that you’re getting promoted? How is it that you’re 25
and you have your own office and you’re growing on this
team, and I’ve been in my spot for five years. How are you making six figures at 25? I want to be there. I’ve been in the same place. I feel stagnant in my career, and I’m having trouble navigating, and I realized, organically,
at first, that there was a need for more professional
development and employee training to help different groups,
particularly underrepresented and underserved groups,
understand how they can navigate and really be successful
in environments where, a lot of times, you’re one of
a few or even one of the only on a team at times, so, where
do you get the skillsets, where do you get the resources
to make sure that you’re building and growing,
and there were really a dearth of those. So I started creating my own,
while I was working full-time, definitely going to, yeah,
going to colleges, universities, working with the employee
resource groups at my company to provide training and
ideas for how we can improve professional development,
and as I began to do more research and also because
of the demands of my job, I realized that there was
enough here to move into this full-time, and there
was really a need for this. If we want to see the way
the C-Suite looks today, with very little representation
of women, of people of color, of any underrepresented
group, then we need to be training them now from a younger age, while they’re young professionals, and there needs to be more access to professional development
if we want to see that change so that there’s more
diversity up at the top. – Love it. I love that idea. Now, you’ve also mentioned
that you have a background in some technology as well. A little about your thoughts with… Blacks in technology, or
millennials in technology, wherever you’d like to go with that. – Yeah, I think there’s
two different ways to go with that, one, when you think
about technology overall, you can think about it
from the standpoint of creating your own technology
and running with that, and that’s part of what I did
when I founded C-Suite Coach. I’ll tell you a little about that. And then the other area is
also just working in tech, as a person of color, which,
there’s huge diversity issues, part of why I also
am working with companies to make sure that they are
providing the resources to make it an inclusive environment for the people that are there. There was a funny picture
that was tweeted recently from Dropbox, and they did
a great job covering it up, but they tweeted Diversity
at Dropbox, and it was a pretty monochromatic photo,
so, there was a lot of… – Yeah.
– A lot of pushback on Twitter about, this is diversity? Like, we need more in technology,
why are you doing this? So I would say my first
experiences, even though I was on the media side and
working for big media companies, all my clients were small
startups, they were all technology companies, and I
was figuring out for my company what is our strategy in making
sure that we’re leveraging these innovations that they’re
creating that can help us make more money, and that’s
ultimately what we want to do. So that was my first experience, and… What I loved about that is, being, even though I
had all the resources of a big company, and I was working
with these small startups, I got the insight from having
these constant interactions with these 25-year-old CEOs, of what is it like to
run your own company, what are the unique challenges you face when you’re a young
CEO and getting started and getting off the ground,
and even though most of them were not black, and most of
them did not look like me, it gave me a great deal of
confidence, because I realized that there were these other
young people doing it. What is it that could be holding me back? So those are some of my
early experiences and things I think about when it comes
to being black in tech. Definitely not a lot
there, but it is growing, there’s resources growing,
all the way from kindergarten and making sure that there
are more people of color equipped to enter technology right now. – I love it. Okay. And we just had the Afrotech
conference with Blavity not too long ago, I actually
went there, and I was there, it was really, really
nice to see just a sea of not only black people, but then
a sea of young black people. So I’m a bit older on the
spectrum, so, you know, there was kind of some moments
where it’s like, ooh, okay, we doing that in the conference, okay. But it was really exciting to see. – Yes. – Nonetheless, it was really
nice to see and experience, you know, all of these
great minds coming together, and very little shade. I was loving it. I was just like, wow, you know? It really gave me hope for
the future, so to speak. And generations. – Yeah, those environments
are so important and so great that we cultivate
relationships with each other. I’m a part of a lot of
different female founder groups. I know some people from
Blavity who are just amazing and awesome, and I think any
time there’s an opportunity to create a community, that
just helps us share resources with each other and improve,
again, what that landscape looks like, in terms of
creating more opportunities for more people of color. – Yeah, you’re definitely right. You’re so right. It just made me feel how old I was. (both laugh) – You look great, Jessica. – I’m not old. Am I that old? Like… But I was like… – My great-grandma’s on
Facebook, you’re fine. – Okay, I’m not using Facebook anymore. No, I’m just kidding. Oh, so, I always, the
people that follow me are my grandma and my mom. So it’s all good. So yeah, so moving on from that, speaking topics. Some of the topics you
speak on, it sounds like you speak a lot about
minorities, as well as… The… Other spectrum, which is technology, and blacks in technology… Give us some other, some of
your other speaking topics, and then tell us as well, who’s
your best, like, audience? Who’s the audience that
you just love to speak to? – Okay, awesome. So, one of my favorite topics
is talking about how to articulate your business
values, so one of the big challenges when it comes
to getting out of that stagnant place when you’re
feeling stagnant at work, and maybe you’ve been
in a position, you feel, for a little bit too long. When I talk to a lot
of young professionals, it’s because they don’t
really know how to articulate what their contribution is to the company, so if you want to get out of that place and you want to progress in your career, you want to convince your manager that you need that promotion, the first thing that
you really have to nail is articulating, what is my contribution to this business and the bottom line, and how good am I at doing it? So I have a whole workshop
that is a full day but can be narrowed down to three
hours that really hit on that, and it’s really important
to do that diligence thing and understanding, how is my,
how am I contributing here, but also how am I making
sure that I’m promoting my contributions and speaking about it and letting people know what I’m up do when I’m in the elevator and
I bump into a C-Suite leader. How do I have that
smalltalk with them, where, in a minute, I can let them know how I’m affecting the bottom line. So that’s one of the things
that I love to talk about. My ideal audience would
be a young professional, a group that’s at a big
company that, they’re looking to move forward in their
careers, they’re ambitious, they’re hungry, and maybe they
feel like they haven’t had enough resources, and they
need some of that knowledge to take their career to the next level. – Love it. Okay, I love it. I love the fact that you give
so much confidence as well. You’re, you know, you’re
instilling that in entrepreneurs as well as, you know, just anyone
in their working situation, where they can really take
what they have and own it, you know, that’s, I think
that’s the big issue that a lot of us run into, is
tooting our own horn, right, and owning the fact that, you know what? I’ve done such and such and
such, and I should really tell everyone about it, and
then, like you said, conveying that message in the proper way, so that’s awesome, I love that. – Yeah, and you know, you
hit on something else, Jessica, that I would
speak to really quickly, and that is, when it
comes to that difficulty in tooting your own horn,
especially from underrepresented groups, what happens is a
lot of times, you’re in an isolated environment, you
might be one of the only, and you may also have some
unique history of backstory that you might carry some
shame about, and I can definitely relate to that,
coming from where I grew up in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, different
kind of upbringing than a lot of my peers had when
I was in my early career at ESPN and Viacom. There’s some things that you
might carry, and it’s important to figure out how to
tackle that, how to conquer your story and be able to
share what’s unique about you and understand that you
still have worth and value, even if your story looks really
different than the people sitting across from you
at your office table. – Definitely. Oh, I love that. So, I think that’s a great
segue question, actually. What are some of the
hurdles you had to overcome to get to where you are today? – Wow. So… I’ve been very, very
blessed in having resources poured into me by my mom,
who was a single parent, but so good at her job, it
could have felt like I had four or five parents at certain times. And, you know, I think it’s
important to be cognizant that there are two stories there. On one hand, there are some
of the disadvantages of growing up with a single
teenage parent, that are, you just can’t overlook. It’s just part of what
makes life what it is. But on the other hand,
there are great privileges in having someone with the
personality and the hustle and the ambition that my mother had, so… It’s a hurdle and a
blessing all wrapped in one in some of the things
that we had to overcome, but really, really grateful
for what she instilled in me, and that we did overcome that
hurdle, and the fact that my mom was adamant about making
sure I pursued my education, sometimes she was a drill
sergeant, I have all these memories of being sick and
wanting to stay home from school, and my mom saying, it is
my legal responsibility by the City of New York to
make sure that you’re in class, but, you know, that kind
of principle, that attitude that she had, carried all
the way throughout my career to the point where, in my
early 20s, when I wanted bags and shoes, my mom was
buying my sessions with executive coaches, so,
in terms of understanding how to navigate in a
corporate environment, I was taught to really pour my resources, the limited resources that I did have, into professional development,
training, and opportunities and working with coaches, and
that’s part of why working as a coach is so important to me, and why I value it so much, because I saw how it transformed my
socio-economic status, and my first role at ESPN, coming out with my master’s degree, I
was making less than $40,000, which is really humbling. You know, you feel like you
graduate with a master’s, I’ve invested all this in my education, coming back to live in
New York, paying triple what I was paying in rent when
I lived in North Carolina, and finding a way to make it
work, but in just three years, I was able to triple my salary,
and that was from pouring all my resources into
professional development and really understanding
how to really navigate the setting that I was in, which was not like the
neighborhood I grew up in. Nothing in, you know, the
C-Suite of ESPN or Viacom looked anything like my
neighborhood in Bed-Stuy when I was growing up,
but I found a way to be comfortable, I found a
way to be successful, and that came from really
cultivating myself, knowing my values, and really
developing that confidence through the work of coaches. – Well, I could tell you
that if you don’t feel like running after just
listening to you right now, I don’t know what’ll get
you to start running. It makes you want to just, woo! Like, go, girl. I’m loving it. – Yeah. – I think that you, you
mentioned personal development, and I had a question there. What do you define, or
let me rephrase that. Define personal development. What does that mean to you,
and why is it so important? – It is pouring resources into yourself. It is reflection, it
is remaining coachable and understanding that
you are forever a student. One of my favorite things
to say when I’m speaking to young professionals or
any professional audience, I’ve also spoken to audiences
of women, sometimes double and triple my age, boomers,
and we talk about navigating leadership across generations. One of the things that
is really important is, no matter how old you are,
no matter how much experience you have and no matter how
little experience you have, it’s a mindset of being a
student of the business, and not just a student of the
business, but a student of life, and understanding that
there’s always more to learn, there’s always new skills to cultivate. I mentioned earlier, my
great-grandmother’s on Facebook, she didn’t say, oh, I’m
old, I’m retired, I’m, I’m going to not learn the new stuff and just stick with what I know. She adapts, and I think for
me, when I think about it, there’s nothing that you can’t
learn if you’re willing to learn, and that’s what personal
development really is about. – I love it. I absolutely love that. So it’s basically all
about, like you said, pouring your resources into
someone else or something else that then comes back to
you and helps you grow. – Yes, yes.
– Enables you to grow and enables you to learn more. I love the fact that
you’ve pinpointed down too that we’re always a student. I think, especially as
speakers, we get to a certain level in the speaking game…
– Yes. – Where we feel like we no
longer have anything else to learn, like, we know everything. I think that, you know,
that’s, I’m so happy that you touched on that, because
we’re never at that point. There’s always something new
to learn, and I have a saying that I say a lot with a
lot of my clients as well. It’s that everyone knows something, but not everyone knows everything. Everyone has something in
them that they have to give to to someone else that
can possible enable them or help them in a certain way. So that’s great, I love that. So, we talked about some of
the hurdles that you had to go through, but what’s some of
the advice that you would give people wishing to follow
in your footsteps? What’s your advice piece
that you have there? – Cultivate the process
of knowing yourself. Self-discovery is so
important to making sure that you’re leading a life that’s
on purpose, that you’re making decisions that… Are really, truly, to make
sure that you’re fulfilled in everything that you do,
so that’s another key piece of personal development,
is what the road map looks like for me may not
necessarily be the same road map for you, Jessica. It’s, we may have a
completely different process that we need to go to to understand what makes us feel happy,
fulfilled, and successful, but it’s really about taking
that time to invest in myself, taking that time to do
reflection on what are my values, what are my priorities,
and what are my passions, and that’s a journey that’s
ongoing and will never stop. So really, the biggest
advice I have is understand that it is your individual
journey, and it is a journey that you have to keep investing
in, but it is your journey, individually. – I love it. Individual success. Right? It’s all defined by you.
– Yes. – Defined and set up by you. So what things are
important to you in life? – You know, one of the biggest
things that’s important to me in life, you kind of hit on
earlier when you talked about your own personal philosophy, like, everyone has something to offer. That’s something that’s
always guided my life, even growing up, as I mentioned,
with my mom in Bed-Stuy, and I think that comes down to… Being a young person
and, in our community, giving to the church scholarship,
giving to the collection plate for the preacher
after he finished preaching. That idea of giving back,
giving back, even when you don’t have a lot, is
something that was really, really a big focus for my
family, is that we always have something to offer,
and I think that there’s something so rich about
that, when it comes to identifying your self worth. If you have that mindset that
no matter how little you have, you have something to offer,
whether that’s financially or whether that’s sharing
your intellectual property, whatever the case might be… Then, then there’s something
about you that is, is worthy, and that’s such a great way to live, so, I would say that it really
boils down to, philanthropy is one of my biggest priorities,
one of the biggest things that I value, for various
reasons, because I don’t think that I should be
an anomaly, for instance, in being able to transform
my socio-economic status from having grown in a corporate career, and I know that that is
because resources have been poured into me through
non-profits, through other opportunities, and I want
more people to have access to those resources, so I seek
to create that when I can. – Love it, love it. So we talked a bit about… (audio echoes) We talked about… Your Uber experience. – Yes. – Tell the people, tell the
audience a bit about the Uber experience and how you won and took over. (both laugh) – So that is… From when we talked earlier
about, as a speaker, always being willing to
try new things and learn. I had done several pitch
competitions, and I’d been a finalist of hundreds of
applicants two different times, with a venture capital pitch competition, and also one that was an
international pitch competition right in Harlem. And while I was a finalist
in those two competitions, I didn’t win, but I stayed
hungry, I stayed humble, and I stayed willing to
learn and receive feedback. So I get an email from one of my friends, they’re like, you should check this out. Uber’s doing this really innovative thing where you can get an Uber
for a ride and pitch a top VC investor, and many
of them were some of the early investors in Uber. So, I saw in the app that the rides were all over the five
boroughs, and I was in Harlem in my workspace, and I was like, oh, I’ll just order one from Harlem. So I sent for an Uber. It was only available for three hours. I spent the first two
hours trying to order Uber in our Harlem. Nothing comes, nothing
comes, and I’m sitting there talking to Kaliyah, who works with me, and we are, should I go
downtown, should I, you know, you’re an entrepreneur, every
minute you have is valuable. Is this worth the investment? I’ve already dedicated two hours to just trying to request an Uber. I should run and do other work that’s going to make me some money, and… We just, you know, she
was like, go downtown, we’ll request an Uber, so both she and I are requesting while I’m on
the train all the way downtown. Before I even get off the train, an Uber is five minutes
away, so I get out, gather my thoughts, had my pitch ready, and I had seven minutes
to pitch an investor. The investor that I had
was Charlie O’Donnell from Brooklyn Bridge
Ventures, he’s amazing, and he got it, I was
really lucky, he understood coaching right away, and
I guess I impressed him, because I was one of the
final three that got to go to a live pitch that night in front of other top investors, and a, in front of a huge audience. So I did that, again, worked,
had my pitch stuff ready, always be ready so you
don’t have to get ready. I had my pitch stuff ready,
because I had pitched before, and… Did my pitch live in front of everyone, answered the questions in
front of the panel of judges, and I walked away as the winner of, of $5,000 that I could pour into my business, so that was really a great opportunity. We talked about blacks
in technology earlier. One of the key parts of my
business was when I started my coaching business, it was
an app to connect coaches to diverse millennial
professionals, so I got to talk about that experience
and the growth and the changes, why I picked an
app, why it was so critical to make sure that coaching
was available to be delivered mobile first for this audience,
to make it more accessible, and I got to share all of
those things in the pitch competition and landed a
spot in Business Insider, that was awesome. – Mmhmm. – And it showed more about
my business, so I was happy. They got it. They understand diverse
millennial professionals need more resources. – Mmhmm. Just like, they got it! – They got it. (both laugh) – They got it from you,
that’s what they got it from. They got it from you, and I think that… I want to talk about this
really quickly, because I see Great Black
Speakers as a platform to not only provide speakers
the opportunities to spread their message,
but to also empower a lot of… You know, I’m going to use the word, but I’m going to use it loosely, speakers. People that want to be on the
platform, that want to build their own platform, that
want to start speaking, but just haven’t gotten
to that level as of yet, so these videos are really truthfully for all of our speakers at any
level, so I definitely want to take you and I want to use
you as an example and say that everyone here has a
reason why you’re here. I always say that
there’s a purpose, right, we all have a purpose. But while we beat out the
kazillion other, you know, there are a ton of different words to say, but the specimens that
could have broken… (both laugh) To be born, to be here, right? So you have a purpose here,
you have a reason as to why you’re here. Now, it’s up to you to show
up and define what that is. And to really live out that purpose, and I think for Angelina,
she has definitely, she’s definitely put herself out there, and I think that’s, you
know, $5,000, or what was it, was it 5,000 or 2,000? 5,000, right? $5,000? – $5,000. – Yeah, $5,000 is a great,
a great way to return that ROI on two hours of work, right? Well, that’s all of the… Accolades, and of course,
all of the other promotions, everything’s effect on the
market, everything she got from that, it was probably
well worth the $5,000, okay? – Absolutely. – So definitely worth the
time and the investment to just step out of your
comfort zone sometimes and bring and attract things that are
especially meant just for you. So, I definitely wanted to
make sure that I took the time out to say, look at
Angelina as an example of doing that, stepping our of
her comfort zone and saying, you know what, I know this
sounds crazy, and it sounds like really audacious, and
it sounds like something that’ll never happen,
but I’m just going to do it anyway and see what
happens, ’cause stepping out on that faith always returns, and… – Oh, yes. – It always returns. So, let’s continue on with,
we have like two or three more questions here. What, so we talked about
what things in your life are important, what sort of
things do you have going on? I hear that you’re doing a TED
Talk coming up in February, so please tell us about that. What else is keeping you busy? What are you working on right now? – I’m very excited. Coming up February 11,
I’ll be doing my first TED Talk at Deer Park in
Long Island, and as we talk about speaking, I’ve been
watching tons of TED Talks, getting excited for mine,
but as much as I love to study the craft of
speaking, and I think it is important to study the
craft, one thing I would say to any speaker watching
is, always make sure that, as you’re learning, as you’re
watching, definitely adapt what works for you, but you
have to remain authentic to yourself, right? So, if you know that
speaking with a Powerpoint isn’t your style, if you know that comedy while you’re speaking isn’t
your style, don’t feel like you have to adapt that
because someone else did it really, really, well, or
that you have to, you know, freestyle because someone else freestyled. Whatever the case might be. What worked for that
person doesn’t necessarily work for you, so, I work
hard on making sure that I have my individual style, I work at it, and I’m excited to bring
that to the TED stage and share my story and my
style with the audience that’s going to be there watching. It’s almost sold out,
there’s just 15 tickets left, so really looking forward to that. – Awesome, awesome. I hear a book coming, or I think I smell a
book, individual style. – You know… There’s not a book deal yet… (both laugh) – I think I smell a book. – But I am an active writer, and there’s definitely a very… Filled-out outline, lots of pages written, so… – Nice.
– The book deal… When that drops, I’ll announce that. – Awesome, awesome. – A lot of writing happening here. – Yeah, just make sure you
credit me, Individual Style. (both laugh) All right, so, moving on from that… Let’s see. Where can our readers find more about you and connect with you? Tell us a little bit about
where we can find you and then any other
jewels you want to drop, or any other last thoughts
you want to drop as well, feel free to go ahead. This is your stage. Leave us with that.
– Awesome. So, you can follow me on
Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, whatever you want,
@LinaDarrisaw, D-A-R-R-I-S-A-W, or check out by website,
angelinadarrisaw.com. Both there as well as
on the Huffington Post, now on GBS and a few other publications, ’cause I write about
diversity in business, I write about professional development, pathways to establish your success. Pathways and resources for
making sure you are doing the things that you need
to do to move forward in your career, so I
definitely encourage you to check out some of my writing. I also encourage you to check out www.thecsuitecoach.com to learn more about my business,
and also see more resources that are available for free
for professional development for young, diverse
millennial professionals. – Awesome, I love it. So thank you so much, Angelina. This has been truly, truly great. You guys, go ahead and
check out Angelina’s blog on greatblackspeakers.com. Also go ahead and leave us a
comment down below this video. Let us know what you
learned from Angelina, if there’s any questions
you may have as well. Feel free to book Angelina at greatblackspeakers.com as well. Thank you so much Angelina,
it’s been a pleasure. – Thank you so much, Jessica. It’s been great talking
to you, and I look forward to speaking with more of you soon. – Yes. All right, have a great day,
and we will see you soon on the Great Black Speakers Spotlight. Bye! – Thank you.

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